What pulled the SP Silver/Red Stripe scheme?

[Hyce]

I'm a little confused- What pulled the Silver/Red stripe cars? Walthers and Rapido make HO models, but yet I haven't seen a diesel or steam engine that would pull them.

Is there some "Missing" Paint scheme?

[espeefoamer]

This scheme was first used on the newly streamlined Sunset Limited in 1950.SP made this their standard scheme for all passenger cars in 1959.Thus,any SP passenger diesels would be correct for this scheme.

[Hyce]

Ah. So they completely killed off the daylight in 1959?

[SP 9811]

The red and silver SP train would be the Southern Pacific/Rock Island "Golden State", that ran between Chicago and Los Angeles.

Here is a pic of Golden State power. And a site with some info...
espee.railfan.net/golden-state.html

[thespcaboose]

I like this paint scheme, Thom.

[espeefoamer]

Unfortunately this scheme only lasted a few years.Two sets of E7s were painted in this scheme in 1947,but by the early 50s the locos were repainted into the Daylight colors.The cars remained in this paint a while longer.

[thespcaboose]

Good point espeefoamer. This is one of my favorite paint schemes. The kodachrome as well as the scarlet and grey being my two favorites.

[espeejim17]

Photo looks orange thru fiter used

[holat91]

I used to ride Sunset Limited #s 1 and 2 on the San Antonio Division back in the late 60s and by then it was all Bloody Nose and an FP-7 pulling an E (8/9) back to back.

[espeelover]

Towards the end of passenger service, I have seen SDP45's pulling the San Joaquin.

[CalifCoast]

The Sunset Limited in the Silver with the Red Stripe was pulled by E-7s in the Daylight Paint. When SP went to the Bloody nose, you saw a mixed bag of paint on the head end until the Daylight paint was phased out. Then all motive power was in the Bloody nosed paint. You could also find F and FP units in both Freight paint (Black, Silver, Orange) and even some of the E units painted in this paint (while they lasted). Depending on your era, your paint on the movtive power could really be mixed...

[espeefoamer]

I saw the Sunset pull into Union Station in 1969.It was a very sad train.One E9,baggage,coach,automat,3 coaches. That was it.

[twofosho]

Apart from the shared RI/SP Golden Rocket Daylight red over silver which, because the red covered virtually 1/2 the the car, including the top, used on the lightweight equipped Golden State really wasn't a red stripe on a silver car scheme, there were two SP schemes consisting of a red stripe on a silver car.
First is the 1950 Sunset Limited Daylight red stripe outlined in black with lettering gray lettering outlined in black on a natural (in the case of the Budd cars) stainless steel body. This scheme was immediately adopted for the Pullman car equipted Sunbeam train by stripping the stainless body panels to natural and painting the non stainless panels in what was referred to as simulated stainless steel paint. Within a few years this paint was also given to the Golden State and the Redwood making a total of four trains assigned this scheme.
Second would be the 1958 simplified general service scheme of a silver car carrying a scarlett red (the same red as used in the bloody nose scheme) stripe with NO black outlining on the car at all. Whether or not a car given this scheme was painted entirely in silver or had any stainless panels stripped to natural seems to have been at the whim of the individual painter or shop doing the work.
A short time before his death in 2002 Will Anderson wrote a comprehensive series of five articles on the various SP paint jobs for and published by the Mainline Modeler magazine. Reading these should considered a "must do" for anyone starting to study the subject of SP passenger car painting.

[cascadelark76]

I have all five of those articles, in binders and page protectors, The single red stripe and silver body was, at first, The Sunset Limited's Paint scheme, or should I say it was just Red Stripe and bare aluminum buffed to a shine, later, in the 1960's the single red stripe became the norm for all Espee Passenger equipment that came up for repainting.

If you model the Sunset Limited, don't just buy a bunch of Walthers Budd 10/6 Sleepers and Dining cars and coach cars and say this is the sunset limited, because it wouldn't be correct, Because 1. none of the Sunset Limited cars ran on the trucks used by the ones Walthers has on the Budd cars, Instead exchange the 41 CUDO outside swing-hanger trucks with commonwealth trucks in silver, W/O the brake Cylinder on them, because the Sunset Limited's Passenger & Dining Cars had disc brakes, that's right, disc brakes.

You'll need car sides for your 5 coaches, because none of the Budd coaches have the right window arraingment, nor do the diner/Barbershop Lounge/ Coffeeshop Lounge.

unionstationproducts.com/southern_pacific.html

You'll need sides # 9609, 9611, 9613, 9614, 9618, 9624, 9629 & finally 9678-040, all Bud Car Sides are $29.99ea